icing the smoke-removing tube

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#12007-01-0363:12: 31
alexei





winter and first problems is alien…
at a temperature minus 10 or more begins to be formed condensate before the tube, freezes because of what it is decreased pass for fresh air with all consequences (I hope not lethal). Someone did encounter for the sake of similar? You will share for the sake of experiences. For reference- pocket with the hermetically sealed combustion chamber, tube with the length of 1.7 meters (tube before the tube
diameter 60 and 100)

[Vjacxeclav]

what pocket?

[anexei]

Ariston Of uno 24 MFFI

for the solution of problem is necessary the tip. this is plastic attachment before the essence.
and nature of phenomenon is such: the large part of the burnt gases this is water vapor. against the emergence it “reaches” the dew point, i.e., it separates out condensate. since the length of coax is increased, the temperature of the coming-out gases , in comparison with the standard set, due to the heating of air-in. temporary decision - slight opening cap from above the pocket for of air from the quarters. this is necessary only for the fact that to increase the temperature of the burnt gases beyond the emergence based on the coax, but you must understand, that the pocket in you becomes not with THE CLOSED combustion chamber. with all those emerging…

[anexei]

and it is more concrete about the attachment, to open slightly the cap-this already
the extreme measure- if we try to warm that remove smoking
tube (for example - for the plastic tubes of .50).

give as follows:
1. cooling combustion products occurs because of the great length of the coax (outgoing gases they " heat” entering). this is good based on one side, while… you have with another, that you have…
2. pocket of such….
and can lay out the photo this disgrace, as it does ice up?
it is possible to still organize air intake not based on the end of the tube, but based on that unit, which is nearer to the pocket. via the undercut of the external tube of coax or its disconnection. only external unit!

[Dennec]

Respected erectors!!!!!
I please to transfer debates on the modernization of pockets ariston down the forum, if the same have they.
We will henceforth eliminate the themes, which contain references down the production of our associates: cool

[anexei]

to all thanks for help

[Neomid]

From that outline aboved it follows that the section of forum for the coworkers “VT” is simply necessary!!!

[fariAFNe]

But nozzles these , or it is organized “production under the emergent demand”?

apparently Erman agreed with the rabbis
and coaxes now are stamped exclusively with the plastic ends.
by the past in winter NOT ONE Erman was stopped because of . and here with “native” metallic tips sometimes were sad….

[A.Ptaho]

Well I am here, the possessor “Of ”, which with -17 during icing of . projects down 40 from the wall.
Question.
1. to undercut at the point of “” will not become covered with ice?
2. if we try to warm (before the strong frost) by an insulator of the type “Tubex”? (scold)

warming will give nothing. cold air within the external canal plays role, but not outside. it is better to shorten.
how it does become covered with ice? at least who laid out photo…. does can gradient it is done not correctly?
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[A.Ptaho]

there are no 1., since " treated” pocket on the telephone, good that the code of the error of pocket luminesced (problem with the supply of air, gas bleed). Test to pocket!
2. of 3, was inspected.
3. occurs on the very territory of the external tube (not reflector!)I think that the process of cutting and warming with respect to my nature it is identical, since hot air before the internal tube no longer manages the heating of external and attacks moment when partition temperature and length of tube, begins to play their . shorter the tube (it is warmed) those lower it must be external temperature, for educating the icing over.
Simply with cutting of tube there is a risk to obtain on the walls ( from the vapor during the start, down from the dripping condensate) Of on the earth it was necessary to see!
After cutting off ago not of : -)

the product of the combustion of gas - water vapor. think over, what to do, that it did not freeze. and why on the pockets with the closed combustion chamber minimum on the gas burner is higher than before the same pocket with that discovered?
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[A.Ptaho]

against the end of the tube (in the place of icing over) to dress the plastic ring (about the principle of Herman),
they with the time of the start of pocket after the latter disconnection- in me it stands the factory parameter of 3, there is the possibility to shorten it to the minimum and tube will not manage to cool
“… and why on the pockets with the closed combustion chamber minimum on the gas burner is higher than before the same pocket with that discovered?”
But is possible , I did not comprehend about which it does go speech?

moisture separates out at the moment of the passage of the dew point.
since the temperature on the street we change we cannot, the sole emergence - this to increase the temperature of the coming-out gases. to do this is possible after shortening as far as possible the flue (see installation specifications to the pocket) and that pocket, again after all as far as possible, did not work on minutes of power. especially, underestimated.
by this in winter not of one bell on the problem there was flue. past smallness they behaved in a queer way…

[CO]

For the solution of the problem of the icing over of tube - you will look the assembling parameters. Besides inclination is indicated the limiting value of the emergence of tube based on the wall - 130 millimeters together with the cap.

[A.Ptaho]

Did make by TO down the pocket, did arrive and apropos icing over it did say that it is possible to open cap to the left besides to . strictly this and they did advise . here the fact that pocket it does become with the discovered camera of how this does threaten?

[A.Ptaho]

A.Ptaha wrote:
But here the fact that pocket does become with the discovered camera of how this does threaten?
To ? I will repeat a question…

requirements at the point of the installation of the chimney and pocket differ somewhat. it is implied that combustion air will before the unlimited quantity take away based on the street. the necessary quantity, for example, in the apartment, it can and not be.
pocket- that, - that, it is violet from where the fence of . this is done for temporary warming of the smoke flue. it thawed what. and from the point of view of gasification, it is more exact to requirements at the point of it - this is violation, since the pocket of to be with the closed camera.
for eliminating the problem with the icing over by producer he is allowed.

[Falabuev]

A.Ptaha wrote:
A.Ptaha wrote:
But here the fact that pocket does become with the discovered camera of how this does threaten?
To ? I will repeat a question…
if the pocket “will arise” that will be unimportantly in it discovered cap for the air intake from or no it threatens this always to one and - by freezing of heat carrier in the intra-furnace hydraulic duct. EVEN if in this case (!!!) the temperature before the quarters will be sufficient high.

[A.Ptaho]

In this case the pocket did stop because of the fact that it was formed plug during the suction it . cap for the suction, not cold air of external, but internal before in a . manner in this case can freeze intra-furnace heat carrier??? to .
even with the presence of error, pocket continued to work! the temperature of heat carrier before the area of 40 (respect to developers). : -)