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canty
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 13:08
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Comrades, correctly whether say that the two-circuit pocket cannot be connected down the flexible hose along the gas. But if hose is approved by gaseous service and they themselves it to me try to foist…
House in me is its, I here now make project I am at the same time limply scolded with the gas generators) ") by thanks previously at the point of the responses
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 04:15
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by metallic hose, from the point of view of law, it is possible.
here another: the half meter of rubber hose internal D of 6 “seats” the gas pressure against the entry of pocket down third. meter - is greater than beside half. To you gas will not suffice…
not by hose the diameter
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guthind
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 14:47
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Itself was connected through copper with the adapter nuts and Paronit gasket. what and you I advise. The truth of it to manufacture there was much, there are no ready on the market, it was necessary to buy elbow the adapter nuts with the connecting pieces and to give at the point of the everything they soldered. then it moved out beautifully, yes even inner diameter in the very bottleneck (near the cover Hayek) composes on my 12 millimeters and tube itself with internal 18.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 17:35
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gudkind wrote:
Itself was connected through copper with the adapter nuts and Paronit gasket.
and you have a license for accomplishing of gas-hazardous works?
by data of its project, there where axonometric diagram are indicated diameters accordingly of which and reconstruction occurs, and as above wrote in you it occurs constrictioning, that it does not correspond to project therefore we seek
gudkind wrote:
“copper with the adapter nuts and Paronit gasket”.
And we use on =D
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fariAFNe
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 00:45
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Good!
There is different experience.
Copper tube it did not try. It tried as the experiment:
tube 3/4 with the authorized fittings. It involved as for water. Leakages it is not discovered. It works excellently. Tube then inside stinks terrifically) ". Tried pieces from 50 to 10 meters.
Plastic tube - was frightful) " although the gas pressure less than the pressure of water, at the point of which was designed the plastic. But knowing that many love to inspect leakages by match - I do not recommend. So I do not recommend to use different of air next to the pockets. Especially if pocket at the point of some reasons is placed before the tank. Before the tank to by the way place gaseous equipment is forbidden By , but precedents exist.
Videlas in comrade the flexible supply, through which was connected the pocket. Before the consequence when the gas pressure fell - they replaced down the metal-plastic.
It tried according to the iron tube, supplied directly down the pocket. Terrible hemorrhoidal to connect, to disconnect and the rest connection legal, but makes demands on sober and experienced welder, that rarity).
Strictly here and everything).
Previously thanks.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 05:45
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variable wrote:
It tried as the experiment:
tube 3/4 with the authorized fittings. It involved as for water. Leakages it is not discovered. It works excellently. …
Plastic tube - was frightful) " although the gas pressure less than the pressure of water, at the point of which was designed the plastic.
pitifully there is no on you explanatory gas fitter. it based on the church rapidly removed you… … with the use of tubes about the designation…
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fariAFNe
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 08:48
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Good!
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fariAFNe
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 14:35
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I please forgiveness, Glucks)
So here, gas fitter is competent before our steppe - great rarity, and after those, who before our steppe are named by gas fitters to still and alter it is necessary, yes to inspect quality. But experience - matter very useful. By the way, those tubes, accordingly the certificate of producer (not Ukrainian certainly) can be used including for the gas supply.
But here say to me if you please, how long it does go request from of water equipment to the local service? I did a request still in November.
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Dennec
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 08:28
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to variable
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:25
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variable wrote:
By the way, those tubes, accordingly the certificate of producer (not Ukrainian certainly) can be used including for the gas supply.
here not before the tubes conversation (although about them also). if we follow the Letter of the Law, then tube must be metallic or if hose - metallic . metal-plastic can and it is possible at the point of the ears to attract under any of these categories, and here is connection (accessories) for the sake of the utilization of the rubber packing - in no way. law he says: paranite or winding (flax).
before Feodosiya, in connection with the accident, to two coworkers of threatens the period on 5 years. strictly, forensic precedent, is important, that the prosecutor's office investigates the legislative base of gas supply.
you do wish to be liable? it is interesting, what for?
either live about the laws or change them
Of (2005-04-0923:11: 45)
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fariAFNe
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 20:31
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Rule to break no one truth intended. The case simply was bent back - why not to try).
By the way, recently increasingly more frequently I see, as people they feed latter meter precisely by metal-plastic.
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fariAFNe
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:15
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Apropos request.
№ 30851 It doubled last week based on the site (it was many holidays, so that date I will not recall). The number of request was also indicated. No one rang. I can certainly ring service engineer himself, but in the past year promised to make a call of the accordingly routine.
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anexei
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 19:25
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apropos the hose- the factory certified hose is much better and better-quality than any .
gas it will remain without the change, and here expenditure will decrease, but
in practice interference because of the hose it did not note (in the very
hose stands, and also it was encountered also in other people on the more powerful pockets). To place hose it was necessary because
it tired to to remove leakages before the threaded connection (with the connection of pocket tube it was established with the misalignment) and concerning safety regulations it is remembered were there such lines- is permitted the connection of gaseous instruments by flexible hose with the length not of more than 2 meters.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 21:51
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alexei wrote:
… The gas pressure will remain without the change, and here expenditure will decrease…
it is possible to explain nature this miracle??? this as?
Of (2002-02-0351:24: 18)
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anexei
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 06:20
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no miracles.
I will try to , the equation Of for the fluid flow and other theoretical
unpacking- this discharge, all that stated does not claim below down the truth, before by something
can and it is erroneous.
Again I will mention - during the replacement of . (for example .1 \ of 2 inches) down the flexible
hose, we will obtain the decrease of the gas flow, but pressure will remain before.
It is checked personally by me in practice-. is connected by the flexible hose Of l=0/8
measured the pressure afterward with crane 1 \ 2 inches with the help of the U-tube gauge
the crane-280 ... and also the very against the end of the hose-the same are 280 ... (normal
pressure before the gas line for the winter).
About the gas flow-after unscrewing one end of the hose from the pocket and after deducing it beyond the street,
is discovered crane and on . it is controlled the gas flow-0.06 cubes before
the minute of respectively 3.6 cubes an hour, also the very having completely removed the hose-
0.13 cubes or 7.8 cubes an hour (diameter of the branch of hose -5.5, the diameter
the aperture of ball cock 1 \ 2 " - 13- through the aperture of the greater diameter
in equal time it passes more than gas).
. down the pocket of 24-the gas flow with the nominal yield (15,
1013 mbars i.e. approximately 101.3..)-2.75 cubes \ hour, for the pocket of 31
-3.54 cubes \ hour (at a pressure of gas before the feeding gas line-200...).
Here such of . it committed errors - to , only by struts not
kick.
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Vjacxeclav
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 15:59
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Here is it panacea.
It is necessary to urgently transmit this of know-how beside the government, it proves to be that for reduction in the gas flow, at the same pressure, to the Ukraine it is necessary simply to narrow the diameters of gas lines and all.
Nobel nerve smokes before the corridor.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 16:41
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alexei wrote:
… If it committed errors - to , by struts do not only kick.
not boom… there is no time… with Nobel before the corridor…
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txi pawer enjeneer
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 20:49
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the dear friend of alexei, you deceived everything.
the pressure of 1013 mbars and temperature 15 - these are the parameters of external in -ha (which corresponds to normal atmospheric pressure)
say, and when you do twist crane on the mixer, in you the duct of water is increased?
the equation of I do not remember, but I remember of what it consists loss of head during the movement of fluid (gas) besides the tubes, and during any constrictioning we will obtain loss of head (because of the fact that the velocity must for the cover of the same expenditure grow and as a result will be raised losses down the friction)
gas has nevertheless more less standard , and if it is written that for obtaining beyond the emergence of the net power of 24 kilowatts necessary to burn 2,73 cubes an hour, then as you with the hoses cannot be raised the efficiency of pocket (well perhaps that you will place economizer and you will convert pocket beside the condensation) "))
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AFTIR
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 14:03
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і to gas by і tubes.
Before іє - і by і tube.
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Serjej
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:05
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Pleasure not of the cheap - but it that stands!
Of sergey (2207-02-8985:39: 45)
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guthind
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 21:46
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This is how connected gas to itself,
materials were bridged 10 kopecks beside 50
http://vele4.wevfine.ro/6617989/
of gudkind (2007-08-2606:41: 29)
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 23:13
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the adapter nut down the screw thread? and it was not possible instead of the thread to screw in the faced barrel, and copper construction to elongate? it would be bridged down 10 more expensive, but it would be more rightly.
and on the market at the point of these money it was possible to buy the fluted hose…
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guthind
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 09:28
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Nothing similar, first of all what bit left the gas fitters (but left they precisely driving together visible on the photo above) of such it was necessary to use. To do speak you copper construction? But meaning? To screw in barrel? But meaning?
How barrel faced will be better than the common driving together which I then itself it did face by grinder? That which is shorter? Delirium thermodynamic you speak comrade (as spoke my ) "
to elongate copper construction these are excess material the excess points of soldering, and to screw in even in this case barrel, turning the connection packed by gas fitters and to anew, in my opinion you do not know how to count time and money) "
Generally your , but if you infuse you will lay out an example how must, as the saying goes photo beside the studio (only it is not must to us flexible metal hoses, but that done its hands)
But this is how gas fitters “sculpture”:
http://fele4.webfine.ro/2318043/jas_
also as you surely loves a little more small and then everyone to by small couplings and by ) ") the beauty
of gudkind (2704-02-1674:47: 47)
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 01:53
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there are rules of the installation of gas. and since you did it is not done. after the grinding of end on the place (you zh they did not twist out the driving together, left after the inheritance), delicate edge, by places is less than millimeters, but for the utilization of the adapter nut with the paranite gasket are used surfaces before which paranite it is pressed throughout entire area. special kegs with the increased faced surface for these purposes serve.
that they make more badly - this is not justification.
the meaning of post is reduced down the fact that if already they undertook to make, then at the point of the same money (note, your time) it was possible to do and , and more competent.
you will look attentively before the second photo and say, what elements in the construction are excess.
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guthind
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 18:11
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the elements of excess it is much (in essence is not necessary one additional in the form of clutch with the lock nut, however, but that to make when you come based on the work and see this “creativity”) to alter everything that gas fitters there was neither time nor of desire, entire work was reduced using inheritance of gas fitters to connect gas by rigid tube, also, without constrictioning.
But flexible to corrugation on the market I discovered after 4 months.
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Serjej
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 13:31
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gudkind wrote:
But flexible to corrugation on the market I discovered after 4 months.
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And as to you corrugation??
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guthind
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 03:51
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2 Sergey
If honestly I feed what first passion to copper) " when soldered that in me appears the sensation of reliability) ", although this is not structural.
But so corrugation has law down the life and normal version for those who he does not wish to be fooled with soldering of copper.
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